LC&NRR : Standard

The Lugoff, Camden and Northern Railroad is the parent of the narrow gauge Deep River Railroad and Deep River Coke & Coal. Everything is in a flux .. of sorts. I started with calling my model railroad the Lugoff and Camden Railroad. That was simply because I live in Lugoff and Camden is only two miles away. Realizing that using the names of two towns only two miles apart made little sense I added a – & Northern. Since then I have been researching actual historical railroads and looking where I could insert my imaginary railroad into that history.

It’s been fun actually. You can view the LC&NRR to see where I am currently .. again it changes as I work to make the numbers, dates, places match up. I also have a page on the purpose of the railroad .. again .. this ties together with me trying to make my ‘history’ .. make sense.

LC&NRR History

The Historical Timeline you see below is a mix of actual history and a good bit of fiction stirred in. The ‘bits’ that are Fictional (or nearly so) will look like this. Pre-1775 NC Horton Coal Mine operated near Gulf, … Continue reading

LC&NRR Purpose

The following may appear a bit disorganized at first as .. at first .. it will contain a lot of un-organized information relating to that ‘purpose’ It seems to me that a railroad has to have a purpose. It might … Continue reading


LC&NRR : Standard — 5 Comments

  1. Actually a two mile long railroad is less silly than you think. Remember that being missed by a railroad was serious business especially in horse and buggy days, it could close the town down,or have a new town created just down the road, next to the first railroad. Many a small town had created a small railroad to link up with a larger railroad to keep from going out of business. I know of a few towns that built railroads to keep from losing the county seat to the railroads that got it. And Northern is a nice touch whether the railroad ever got past the two towns in its name or not.Sort of like many small railroad out west adding and Pacific,though few of them ever expanded anywhere near the Pacific, nor even few counties away from their home county.

    Out here in New Mexico the railroads often missed each town by one or two miles, sometimes more, so as to not have to pay outrageous prices for town lots for the right of way. Then one of two things happened. Either the town picked up and moved or a new town was created and the old town died,normally. Sometimes ths created two towns of the same name a mile or two apart whenthe railway missed the orginal town,such as Old Town Albuquerque and New Town Alberquerque, with a mule powered two mile long streat car line between. Old Town became a back water and new town grew and bustled until the two towns came back togher inthe 1940s. Old town has the older buildings, now a tourist area that charges high rents to the torusit gift shops that lease the old building. Basically the same thing happened with Las Vegas,NM. Now Columbus, New Mexico started just on the American side of the Mexican boarder across from Palomas, Mexico,but when the El Paso and Soutwestern built three miles aways, Columbus moved three miles to be on it. That railroad is long gone, but Columbus is still in the later location.

    Meanwhile I am starting an HOn30 Railroad, supposedly built in the State of Maine. One, I am notmuch into deserts and two, local towns are often few and far between, like 60 to a 100 miles away from each other. So up and Maine, there are both forests and the towns villages and four corner little communities sometimes are crowded just a mile or two apart. A lot more fun from the operating stand point The entire railway’s name after just the one town Clifford Railwayd when the nearest railroad built a little over a dozen miles away in the next valley. Now the junction Morristown, railway main yard and transfer yard and head quarters, will only be a fiddleyard, but that leaves me with two smaller yards that would take up less space. Now I have to see if I can build it, as this is my first layout.

    • Christopher. You made some good points. Never knew that about Albuquerque either .. interesting. My hometown, Lugoff which sits as I said, two miles from Camden is just across the river. It seems that it was a whistle stop on the Seaboard Air Line RR. Built in 1899 it was named for a Count Lugoff .. a Russian engineer working for the SAL. Love finding out the history stuff.

  2. I started ready railroad history back in high school as we had a lot of railroad history books back in the early 1960s,for some reason,though airplanes were considered cutting edge technology, along with the struggling rockets.

    Started with big and transcontinental railroads an worked my way down to tiny little out of the way railroads.

    Despite all the promise that narrow gauge being cheaper to build, most of that was from sub standard engineering practices, such as wooden trestles instead of fill, steep grades and tight curves, mostly to avoid deep cuts, long fills and tunnels. So using untreated wood, and little ballast often little more than dirt, maintenance costs were soon very high. So most narrow gauge was granted higher than normal freight and passenger charges to get by. If, anything our model railroads,especially narrow gauge ones are usually built to far higher standards that the real thing. The real ones tended to follow that landform wandering up and down ever few feet. Dirt rather than gravel often meant rotting ties the first year, rickety bridges and bad track meant that many of them had trouble even making 6 to 8 miles and hour and still might go off the track several times between towns Still re-railing them was rarely a lot of trouble and slow speeds meant most wreckage was rather limited,unless it was one of those western mountains ones with steep canyons and then it could get scary.

    We actually had a few mining railroads that to get to the towns in time, built right down in the desert gullies. Of course when they did get rain several miles of track would get washed away, and it could take days to weeks get the railroad running again.

    I am not sure we would want to create derailments,but it might be fun to see how rough we could make our rail lines look perhaps creating a bit more of a gentle roller coaster look. Then you have strange people like me who compromise, I love lots of curves, but I plan on no grades more than two percent,and I am thinking of stone bridges, so as to end bridge maintenance and more fills,perhaps burying to original trestles. But then I am influenced by righting the narrow gauge in Wales. So I may have a bit of the gentle roller coaster look, but I will excuse my easier grades and stone work by having a Scotsman build it who was thinking a bit longer term than most narrow gauge promoters, because he intended to run it as its president. Yes R. Cornelius McGregor was a stubborn man and the Clifford Railway shows him being a stickler on well maintained road beds and good engine maintenance.

    By the way I commented on that poor mistreated critter that you have on your railroad.[Grin]

    I was ready about a guy that owns a 1876 wood burning locomotive that he hauls around to various narrow gauge railroads to run.The fastest he had ever run it was 30 MPH and that scared him.So with most of the actual road roads,and poor track maintenance it was more like that 12 to 20 MPH would be about as fast as they ever ran Now as I am only going to have DC, I hope that I can run that slow. What I would like is average of 15 MPH for freights and perhaps up to 20 MPH per passengers. So we will see what actually happens.

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